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Three wood beads

Question:
I was in a supermarket in Wales today where a group were bagpacking. I noticed two things:

1. The leader had three wood beads. What do you get a third for? According to SBUK the award of more than two has stopped.

2. They had 'welsh dragon' badges on the top of each shoulder (where epaulets would be). Is this usual for Welsh Groups?

Unfortunately, circumstances meant that I couldn't ask the people directly so I thought I would ask you lot. Any answers?


Answer:
-Don't know about the wood beads sorry, haven't bothered with my training.

regarding the dragons, yes that is normal, we also have a couple of special badges that are purely welsh too.

http://www.scoutbase.org.uk/wales/cubs/main.htm Cub Scout Award for Wales

http://www.scoutbase.org.uk/wales/new/dragonaward/index.htm - Scouts, explorers and Leaders can earn this, I'm trying to get the bottle to camp in January.

Long, long ago in a far distant land the Assistant Leader Trainers would have three Beads on the Wood badge. This person is either very, very old and still wearing it as the last of a long line of Assistant Leader Trainers or they are possibly living in the past as that practice stopped long ago as far as I am aware. But then again perhaps it is a local rule or was awarded for superior bag packing or something

And Leader Trainers used to get 4 beads, and still do in some foreign countries. Wales?

But if he was entitled to wear 3 why can't he still wear 3, same for leader trainers - they had to do more training than nowadays. 3 and 4 bead woodbadges are still available from the info centre just not for uk scouters - if i was fortunate enough to have done the training i'd want to wear them.

As for the dragons, (which both face the front btw) - scottish scouts can wear st andrews saltaire so why cant english scouts wear st georges croos??



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